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		<title>By: Rick Dane</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57409</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

  I noticed that one of the posts on your website is about telecommuting. I'm Rick Dane, the creator of a new telecommute web community where users can review and rate employers, find jobs, and network with others using our site's social network. The site is free to use for all members and we are hoping to get the word our to people who may be interested. Unfortunately there are a lot of dead ends and scams in the work from home / telecommute employment field so the goal of our site is to be a reliable source for those interested in this.

  If you like our site or think it has any potential and want to post on your site about it send us a link and we will post it on the "Media Coverage": (http://telecommutereview.com/content/media-coverage) section of our site. Thanks and have a nice day.

Sincerely,
Rick Dane
http://telecommutereview.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>  I noticed that one of the posts on your website is about telecommuting. I&#8217;m Rick Dane, the creator of a new telecommute web community where users can review and rate employers, find jobs, and network with others using our site&#8217;s social network. The site is free to use for all members and we are hoping to get the word our to people who may be interested. Unfortunately there are a lot of dead ends and scams in the work from home / telecommute employment field so the goal of our site is to be a reliable source for those interested in this.</p>
<p>  If you like our site or think it has any potential and want to post on your site about it send us a link and we will post it on the &#8220;Media Coverage&#8221;: (http://telecommutereview.com/content/media-coverage) section of our site. Thanks and have a nice day.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Rick Dane<br />
<a href="http://telecommutereview.com" rel="nofollow">http://telecommutereview.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelangelo van Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57311</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelangelo van Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lisa,

I would like to provide you a few major benefits for employers on this matter:


1. The biggest advantage is that you need less or no office space to rent or buy.

2. Your employees are in general more productive then in the office and often work (a little) longer, because they don't have to commute, even if they during the day for shopping or personal appointments.

3. As a company you can say you think about the environment by having (almost all) of your employees working from home. These days it is cool to be green, so that's an extra benefit.

4. You can get very good deals on hardware and internet connections for telecommuting employees, where the benefit is that you can use their support facilities to cope with hardware and/or connection issues at the employees home. This can reduce the IT overhead between 5% to 15%.

5. It's now a good argument to attract new employees, because most of them already lost interest in the common benefits like a company car or cell phone. Telecommuting is becoming an exceptional benefit that your competition can't provide yet.

There are more things you can add to this list, but I think this is already a good start. I know there are several studies made on this subject, so maybe someone can point you to these studies where example costs were compared to the conventional employee environment.

Hope this helped a bit,

Michelangelo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lisa,</p>
<p>I would like to provide you a few major benefits for employers on this matter:</p>
<p>1. The biggest advantage is that you need less or no office space to rent or buy.</p>
<p>2. Your employees are in general more productive then in the office and often work (a little) longer, because they don&#8217;t have to commute, even if they during the day for shopping or personal appointments.</p>
<p>3. As a company you can say you think about the environment by having (almost all) of your employees working from home. These days it is cool to be green, so that&#8217;s an extra benefit.</p>
<p>4. You can get very good deals on hardware and internet connections for telecommuting employees, where the benefit is that you can use their support facilities to cope with hardware and/or connection issues at the employees home. This can reduce the IT overhead between 5% to 15%.</p>
<p>5. It&#8217;s now a good argument to attract new employees, because most of them already lost interest in the common benefits like a company car or cell phone. Telecommuting is becoming an exceptional benefit that your competition can&#8217;t provide yet.</p>
<p>There are more things you can add to this list, but I think this is already a good start. I know there are several studies made on this subject, so maybe someone can point you to these studies where example costs were compared to the conventional employee environment.</p>
<p>Hope this helped a bit,</p>
<p>Michelangelo</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57309</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic, Cal!  It'd be interesting to me to see this conversation take the "what's in it for the company" track next.  The benefits to employees are clear and numerous.  What are the benefits to the company?  What types of businesses would benefit most from a distributed staff?  

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic, Cal!  It&#8217;d be interesting to me to see this conversation take the &#8220;what&#8217;s in it for the company&#8221; track next.  The benefits to employees are clear and numerous.  What are the benefits to the company?  What types of businesses would benefit most from a distributed staff?  </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Topbit</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57308</link>
		<dc:creator>Topbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than a period of of a few years where I was working out of a (few) offices, I've done all my PHP development/sys-admin from home. The last year or so I've been working for a dating website, still from home and generally loving it - dispite being the only developer for most of that. Since Xmas (call it 12 weeks), I've been to the office maybe 6 times, once for a meal out, and then a few times to interview/hire new developers.

I've got Central-London style salary for an out-of-city rent, and no transport costs. While finding good people that can work independently isn't easy (and we are still working on that), it's good to be able to offer other Grade-One-Geek's a chance to work in their own favourite environment - right there in front of their own PC, and if they want to work 6am - 3pm instead of my 9:30-6, I've not got a problem with that.  

I've also got a guy working with me that took a £7,000 paycut (call it $14K) - but will save at least that much in transport costs, to say nothing of 4+ hr per day! commute into central London, or to have the ability to be right there at home with his 1 year old baby when they have a fever.  No amount of money could buy that.

We talk almost every day via Skype, and a face to face every couple of weeks has also been useful. Next week - a BBQ at his place while we plan the next big set of features and site upgrades (including moving to Zend Framework).

I do know you'd have to pay me a ridiculous amount  to have me commute any serious distance again - if you could convince me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than a period of of a few years where I was working out of a (few) offices, I&#8217;ve done all my PHP development/sys-admin from home. The last year or so I&#8217;ve been working for a dating website, still from home and generally loving it - dispite being the only developer for most of that. Since Xmas (call it 12 weeks), I&#8217;ve been to the office maybe 6 times, once for a meal out, and then a few times to interview/hire new developers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got Central-London style salary for an out-of-city rent, and no transport costs. While finding good people that can work independently isn&#8217;t easy (and we are still working on that), it&#8217;s good to be able to offer other Grade-One-Geek&#8217;s a chance to work in their own favourite environment - right there in front of their own PC, and if they want to work 6am - 3pm instead of my 9:30-6, I&#8217;ve not got a problem with that.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also got a guy working with me that took a £7,000 paycut (call it $14K) - but will save at least that much in transport costs, to say nothing of 4+ hr per day! commute into central London, or to have the ability to be right there at home with his 1 year old baby when they have a fever.  No amount of money could buy that.</p>
<p>We talk almost every day via Skype, and a face to face every couple of weeks has also been useful. Next week - a BBQ at his place while we plan the next big set of features and site upgrades (including moving to Zend Framework).</p>
<p>I do know you&#8217;d have to pay me a ridiculous amount  to have me commute any serious distance again - if you could convince me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kimsal</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57307</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kimsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic is affecting me in two ways right now.  

1.  It's a topic in the 'near finished' PHP job book.  (ideally out in the next few weeks).  And as usual, there's only so much you can cover in a book - the experiences here go in to more depth than I was able to in the book, but also validate and echo a lot of the issues raised there.

2.  I'm currently transitioning to what will likely be a phase of telecommuting on a number of projects.  Over the last year I've talked to a number of employers who were eager to have me on board, but all backed out at the last minute because of the telecommuting issue.  They were 'not ready for' not 'comfortable with' telecommuting.  In some ways I understood their hesitation, but you also don't get better at something without trying it.  I'm not trying to go out of my way to be someone's test case(!), but I ended up having to develop a "it's them, not me" mindset (which I think was/is mostly justified), but it still is a downer to realize how 'behind the curve' so many companies are.  I will also say that I 100% agree that face to face is great, having group meetings, and being in the same room whiteboarding is a vital experience, and really adds something to many, if not all, teams.  But in some (many?) situations having strong people on the team who aren't in the same room 100% of the time will outweigh having less talented people sitting in the same room.

Great and timely topic Cal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic is affecting me in two ways right now.  </p>
<p>1.  It&#8217;s a topic in the &#8216;near finished&#8217; PHP job book.  (ideally out in the next few weeks).  And as usual, there&#8217;s only so much you can cover in a book - the experiences here go in to more depth than I was able to in the book, but also validate and echo a lot of the issues raised there.</p>
<p>2.  I&#8217;m currently transitioning to what will likely be a phase of telecommuting on a number of projects.  Over the last year I&#8217;ve talked to a number of employers who were eager to have me on board, but all backed out at the last minute because of the telecommuting issue.  They were &#8216;not ready for&#8217; not &#8216;comfortable with&#8217; telecommuting.  In some ways I understood their hesitation, but you also don&#8217;t get better at something without trying it.  I&#8217;m not trying to go out of my way to be someone&#8217;s test case(!), but I ended up having to develop a &#8220;it&#8217;s them, not me&#8221; mindset (which I think was/is mostly justified), but it still is a downer to realize how &#8216;behind the curve&#8217; so many companies are.  I will also say that I 100% agree that face to face is great, having group meetings, and being in the same room whiteboarding is a vital experience, and really adds something to many, if not all, teams.  But in some (many?) situations having strong people on the team who aren&#8217;t in the same room 100% of the time will outweigh having less talented people sitting in the same room.</p>
<p>Great and timely topic Cal!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Burgess</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57306</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who commuted 90 miles one-way for over 12 years, there was indeed a great savings of time/money/CO2/stress possible that was wastefully denied.  Having all your annual reviews tell you how you're one of the top go-to guys (a.k.a. highly trustworthy) made the unavailability of the option even worse, to me.  Even highlighting that my workaholic nature meant my commute time savings would have been devoted to more work time (poor salaried idiot that I am) was no motivator.

It was a great job aside from that, enough so that it made the commute worth it to me personally, but it was obviously a big opportunity missed.  At least I did build a very large audio book collection... that's something I actually miss about the commute, now that I'm only 7 miles from my office.  Even now I'd prefer to telecommute, solely for the cost/CO2 savings, but still no option is allowed aside from emergency/occasional.  It does seem sad to me, though, that I'm trying to find a way to bike to work rather than drive when my work is so obviously 100% remote-capable.

One day... one day the fully remote option will find me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who commuted 90 miles one-way for over 12 years, there was indeed a great savings of time/money/CO2/stress possible that was wastefully denied.  Having all your annual reviews tell you how you&#8217;re one of the top go-to guys (a.k.a. highly trustworthy) made the unavailability of the option even worse, to me.  Even highlighting that my workaholic nature meant my commute time savings would have been devoted to more work time (poor salaried idiot that I am) was no motivator.</p>
<p>It was a great job aside from that, enough so that it made the commute worth it to me personally, but it was obviously a big opportunity missed.  At least I did build a very large audio book collection&#8230; that&#8217;s something I actually miss about the commute, now that I&#8217;m only 7 miles from my office.  Even now I&#8217;d prefer to telecommute, solely for the cost/CO2 savings, but still no option is allowed aside from emergency/occasional.  It does seem sad to me, though, that I&#8217;m trying to find a way to bike to work rather than drive when my work is so obviously 100% remote-capable.</p>
<p>One day&#8230; one day the fully remote option will find me :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Frasier</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57305</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Frasier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Cal!  

I finally checked out your blog; I have been meaning to for some time.  I am very impressed - you have been at it for a while and it really shows in the consistency and the subject matter.  I look forward to examining it more closely later.

Hope to see you at the geek breakfast tomorrow!

Have a fantastic day and stay dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Cal!  </p>
<p>I finally checked out your blog; I have been meaning to for some time.  I am very impressed - you have been at it for a while and it really shows in the consistency and the subject matter.  I look forward to examining it more closely later.</p>
<p>Hope to see you at the geek breakfast tomorrow!</p>
<p>Have a fantastic day and stay dry.</p>
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		<title>By: LornaJane</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57304</link>
		<dc:creator>LornaJane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm another Ibuildings employee and I'm new to the telecommute game, having been working with Ibuildings UK for about 6 weeks now.  As I see it, I get to work with a great company whose office isn't in the same town as I choose to live in.  At home I have all the equipment I need and a separate office that I can close the door on.  Although I am a social animal, I find having my own working space very peaceful and since I am often out in the evenings after work, I see enough people for this not to be a problem.  Communication is an issue but I just work at it, its no different to a workplace split across mutiple offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another Ibuildings employee and I&#8217;m new to the telecommute game, having been working with Ibuildings UK for about 6 weeks now.  As I see it, I get to work with a great company whose office isn&#8217;t in the same town as I choose to live in.  At home I have all the equipment I need and a separate office that I can close the door on.  Although I am a social animal, I find having my own working space very peaceful and since I am often out in the evenings after work, I see enough people for this not to be a problem.  Communication is an issue but I just work at it, its no different to a workplace split across mutiple offices.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelangelo van Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.calevans.com/2008/03/17/telecommutings-time-has-come/#comment-57303</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelangelo van Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cal,


For four years I do business from home, first after my "working" hours when I worked as a freelancer as my secondary job, now it is my job.

Most of the time our communication is done on mail, but we have on line meetings using skype, virtual whiteboards and remote desktop sharing apps or discuss issues on IM.

To get your employer in that "telecommuting" mood, be sure that you use these keywords: green or environmental friendlier, cheaper, more productive, less pollution, less overhead, benefits, role model, ...

A few tips and reminders from my side:
1. Good and clear communication is a skill and if you're telecommuting you and your employer really need to master this skill.

2. As a telecommuting employee you need to be able to work independently, preferably in a separate office. This works in two ways: you can physically remove yourself from your wife and kids to concentrate on the job; it has a mental boost too, once you enter your office you actually have the idea you start your day.

3. A major benefit of telecommuting is that employees are more productive, but this means that as a telecommuting employee you must be able to stay away from work as well (during weekends, evenings, holidays), hence my previous tip on having a separate office.

4. Make sure that your internet provider has a full up- and download package, because here in Belgium you get a maximum download bandwidth , but uploading is limited. 

5. Be sure to tell your friends and family that you're working between xxam and xxpm. Nothing is more frustrating then having to interrupt your work because they have nothing else to do then to bother you. You can meet them for lunch or so.

Just my contribution to the whole telecommuting ideology.

Michelangelo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cal,</p>
<p>For four years I do business from home, first after my &#8220;working&#8221; hours when I worked as a freelancer as my secondary job, now it is my job.</p>
<p>Most of the time our communication is done on mail, but we have on line meetings using skype, virtual whiteboards and remote desktop sharing apps or discuss issues on IM.</p>
<p>To get your employer in that &#8220;telecommuting&#8221; mood, be sure that you use these keywords: green or environmental friendlier, cheaper, more productive, less pollution, less overhead, benefits, role model, &#8230;</p>
<p>A few tips and reminders from my side:<br />
1. Good and clear communication is a skill and if you&#8217;re telecommuting you and your employer really need to master this skill.</p>
<p>2. As a telecommuting employee you need to be able to work independently, preferably in a separate office. This works in two ways: you can physically remove yourself from your wife and kids to concentrate on the job; it has a mental boost too, once you enter your office you actually have the idea you start your day.</p>
<p>3. A major benefit of telecommuting is that employees are more productive, but this means that as a telecommuting employee you must be able to stay away from work as well (during weekends, evenings, holidays), hence my previous tip on having a separate office.</p>
<p>4. Make sure that your internet provider has a full up- and download package, because here in Belgium you get a maximum download bandwidth , but uploading is limited. </p>
<p>5. Be sure to tell your friends and family that you&#8217;re working between xxam and xxpm. Nothing is more frustrating then having to interrupt your work because they have nothing else to do then to bother you. You can meet them for lunch or so.</p>
<p>Just my contribution to the whole telecommuting ideology.</p>
<p>Michelangelo</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been telecommuting since november, when I joined Ivo's company. So far, I've been very happy about this. I work one day a week in the office, and the rest of the time I work from home. Granted, I've not worked a lot on joint projects with a full project team, but still, the contact via Skype and IRC ensures I know what's going on. The single day a week in the office works excellent, it ensures I keep in touch with my co-workers and project manager directly as well (which I do like. the personal meetings are better by far than "digital meetings").

But yes, I think this will happen more often, it needs to happen more often. Especially here in the Netherlands, where the traffic jams are so bad that people often spend at least an hour in a traffic jam or a series of traffic jams. That combined with the environmental issues (I am a bit of a "green" person) and the fact that technological advances these days allow for things like this to happen in my humble opinion means peoplel should take advantage of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been telecommuting since november, when I joined Ivo&#8217;s company. So far, I&#8217;ve been very happy about this. I work one day a week in the office, and the rest of the time I work from home. Granted, I&#8217;ve not worked a lot on joint projects with a full project team, but still, the contact via Skype and IRC ensures I know what&#8217;s going on. The single day a week in the office works excellent, it ensures I keep in touch with my co-workers and project manager directly as well (which I do like. the personal meetings are better by far than &#8220;digital meetings&#8221;).</p>
<p>But yes, I think this will happen more often, it needs to happen more often. Especially here in the Netherlands, where the traffic jams are so bad that people often spend at least an hour in a traffic jam or a series of traffic jams. That combined with the environmental issues (I am a bit of a &#8220;green&#8221; person) and the fact that technological advances these days allow for things like this to happen in my humble opinion means peoplel should take advantage of it.</p>
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