Comments on: MySQL Workbench – A Superficial Review http://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/ Lint I find in my mind's belly-button. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:06:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: MySQL Workbenchhttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65483 MySQL Workbench Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:31:44 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65483 Hi Kevin,Mike Zinner created DBDesigner, and is the leader of the MySQL Tools Team. And, the creator of MySQL Workbench.WB 5.1, current GA, is written in C++, and is available on MacOS, Linux, Windows.WB 5.1 was a replacement for DBDesigner. WB 5.2 will replace MySQL Query Browser and MySQL Administrator.Please let MikeZ know if you have specific feedback: http://forums.mysql.com/index.php?151- MySQL Workbench Hi Kevin,

Mike Zinner created DBDesigner, and is the leader of the MySQL Tools Team. And, the creator of MySQL Workbench.

WB 5.1, current GA, is written in C++, and is available on MacOS, Linux, Windows.

WB 5.1 was a replacement for DBDesigner.
WB 5.2 will replace MySQL Query Browser and MySQL Administrator.

Please let MikeZ know if you have specific feedback:
http://forums.mysql.com/index.php?151

- MySQL Workbench

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]]> By: Cal Evanshttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65378 Cal Evans Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:21:29 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65378 @Harro,Don't feel dumb. ERDs take time to get used to. My first several models were a mess. However, I have a tenancy to think in them now. The second step for me in any project is to paint the ERD. Then I can begin to see how things flow together. (The first step, is of course, to get a clear definition of the project from the client.)=C= @Harro,

Don’t feel dumb. ERDs take time to get used to. My first several models were a mess. However, I have a tenancy to think in them now. The second step for me in any project is to paint the ERD. Then I can begin to see how things flow together. (The first step, is of course, to get a clear definition of the project from the client.)

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]]> By: Harrohttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65377 Harro Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:10:01 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65377 Hmm tried it and I didn't understand it at all..I feel dumb :P Hmm tried it and I didn’t understand it at all..

I feel dumb :P

]]> By: Cal Evanshttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65371 Cal Evans Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:29:56 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65371 @Kevin,I LOVED DBDesigner! It was quirky and buggy but it got the job done. I was very sad when they bought it and killed it.I haven't used ERWin in many years (Like '86) but yes, back then it was the gold standard. However, I don't believe that a tool for MySQL needs all the features ERWin had. I also used Embarcadero's product for a while. Another very pricey tool targeted at large companies that are using big databases. I would be happy for something with the feature set of Workbench that wasn't slow.@Justin,Thanks for the comment. I wish they would figure out how to make it fast for Windows as well.Thanks to both of you for the comments, =C= @Kevin,

I LOVED DBDesigner! It was quirky and buggy but it got the job done. I was very sad when they bought it and killed it.

I haven’t used ERWin in many years (Like ‘86) but yes, back then it was the gold standard. However, I don’t believe that a tool for MySQL needs all the features ERWin had. I also used Embarcadero’s product for a while. Another very pricey tool targeted at large companies that are using big databases. I would be happy for something with the feature set of Workbench that wasn’t slow.

@Justin,

Thanks for the comment. I wish they would figure out how to make it fast for Windows as well.

Thanks to both of you for the comments,
=C=

]]> By: Justinhttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65368 Justin Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:48:51 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65368 I've been pleased with MySQL Workbench, even on a PC. However, on a Mac, it is AWESOME. It is many times faster than on an equivalent (and even newer PC). No matter how big the schema, it doesn't bog down on the Mac. Unfortunately, on a PC, the bigger the schema, the slower it gets. I’ve been pleased with MySQL Workbench, even on a PC. However, on a Mac, it is AWESOME. It is many times faster than on an equivalent (and even newer PC). No matter how big the schema, it doesn’t bog down on the Mac. Unfortunately, on a PC, the bigger the schema, the slower it gets.

]]> By: Kevinhttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65367 Kevin Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:22:21 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65367 What's sad is MySQL bought DBDesigner then proceeded to kill it and resurrect it as this monstrosity, taking years to implement it, to boot. I really enjoyed using DBDesigner even though it had some bugs and quirks. You can still find a download of it, but it doesn't really support the newer features of MySQL.I'm an "old school" database guy, though I do love my ERD. My ERD of choice would be ERwin, purely for usabilty. The people who wrote Workbench appear to have not used anything remote like ERwin or the other big boys. If you've used ERwin before (i.e. someone else ponied up the cash), you'll know what I'm talking about. Though, similarly, CA bought ERwin and, while not having completely F'd it up, it doesn't seem quite as nice as the pre-CA versions. Until recently, they didn't support MySQL, but if all you use is MySQL, it's not cost effective.Oh, and last time (a few months ago) I checked, the OS X version of Workbench was pretty much unusable.Sadly, there's not much else out there that's remotely free that I have found useful or reliable.Kevin What’s sad is MySQL bought DBDesigner then proceeded to kill it and resurrect it as this monstrosity, taking years to implement it, to boot. I really enjoyed using DBDesigner even though it had some bugs and quirks. You can still find a download of it, but it doesn’t really support the newer features of MySQL.

I’m an “old school” database guy, though I do love my ERD. My ERD of choice would be ERwin, purely for usabilty. The people who wrote Workbench appear to have not used anything remote like ERwin or the other big boys. If you’ve used ERwin before (i.e. someone else ponied up the cash), you’ll know what I’m talking about. Though, similarly, CA bought ERwin and, while not having completely F’d it up, it doesn’t seem quite as nice as the pre-CA versions. Until recently, they didn’t support MySQL, but if all you use is MySQL, it’s not cost effective.

Oh, and last time (a few months ago) I checked, the OS X version of Workbench was pretty much unusable.

Sadly, there’s not much else out there that’s remotely free that I have found useful or reliable.

Kevin

]]> By: Digital Media Minutehttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65365 Digital Media Minute Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:40:33 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65365 <strong>MySQL ERD...</strong>A self-proclaimed ‘old school database guy’, Cal Evans gives us an honest and pretty thorough review of the latest version of MySQL Workbench–worth your time if you’re not happy with the MySQL ERD tool you use now, or even if yo... MySQL ERD…

A self-proclaimed ‘old school database guy’, Cal Evans gives us an honest and pretty thorough review of the latest version of MySQL Workbench–worth your time if you’re not happy with the MySQL ERD tool you use now, or even if yo…

]]> By: Cal Evanshttp://blog.calevans.com/2009/07/05/mysql-workbench-a-superficial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65364 Cal Evans Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:30:20 +0000 http://blog.calevans.com/?p=640#comment-65364 @Harro,Currently, as far as i can tell, this is best of breed if you are working with MySQL. Granted, I've not tested them all out yet. I have used at least one high-end (multi-thosand dollar) package that supported MySQL and it wasn't as good as this.So until something better comes along, I'll probably stick with MySQL Workbench.Thanks for the comment, =C= @Harro,

Currently, as far as i can tell, this is best of breed if you are working with MySQL. Granted, I’ve not tested them all out yet. I have used at least one high-end (multi-thosand dollar) package that supported MySQL and it wasn’t as good as this.

So until something better comes along, I’ll probably stick with MySQL Workbench.

Thanks for the comment,
=C=

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